(Received by email on 25th November 2010)
Dear Editor of Niz Goenkar
I thought of writing a few words of encouragement to you I have come across your blog Niz Goenkar , I am residing in Mumbai since my childhood, It is shocking to know that our Politicians , officials from village and other vested interest are keen on destroying Goa for their own selfish needs, the beautiful Goa that it was is all lost , it will not be long before we will be dominated by outsiders in our own place and will be left orphans ,first of all our language konkani is not in place.
Marathi is finding its entry through the back door, the Goans who were familiar with the roman script Konkani are also at a lost, some of our crook politicians are fooling us that they will fight for Konkani in Roman script, but these are empty promises, mega projects are the order of the day, I am from Oxel, when I last visited Goa in May10, I found that there is a residential project coming up in the once sleepy village.
when I talked to the villagers they told me that they protested , probably a feeble one , once it comes up all will be lost, it is good that you’ll have taken the right steps to fight the system of its wrong, for this we will have to all join hands together to fight for our motherland Goa. I wish you all the best. - John R. Fernandes
@ John R. Fernandes - If you call others outsiders in Goa, what do you call yourself in Mumbai ? An insider ???
ReplyDeleteAs I have repeated before, Goans residing outside need not interfere in our affairs. If you are so concerned please give up everything and come back to your sleepy Oxel and then open your mouth.
I'm facing this problem because I also have non Goan friends like all of us do. They all read of this discrimination on this site. Not all of them are bad. Aren't some of our politicians worse ?
We Goans are known for our welcoming attitude. Let us not discriminate, we don't want to live like Nazis trying to kill off the jews or should we ?
Let us kick out our politicians first. Please lend your support to Pausilip, our leader !!! Viva Goa
James D'silva thinks he got too much of wisdom. If a person of Goan origin can't call himself Goan than who can. John R. Fernandes got a very good heart like most Goans and there is a warm blood running in it. Your invitation for James is not required as he got all right to settle in his homeland. If you do not remember Bombay was part of the Portuguese empire and at that time Goans felt that Bombay also belonged to them hence some families moved there and flourished. Many of them made a good living and brought up families. Goans than were a united lot and were instrumental to build lot of Goan village clubs(kudd). I wonder whether James have read about them or not. So my advise to James is to allow anybody who is outside Goa to call himself a Goan if he feels like. Lets not jump on each ones throats.
ReplyDeleteWell said Ek Goenkar. Most of the Goans in Goa are sleeping and are oblivious to the going on around us. Are we happy we the crumbs that are thrown to us by the corrupt. We need all Goans worldwide to unite to weed out this corruption in Goa. I am sorry to say that the Goans in Goa will realise only after its too late.
ReplyDeleteTo James d`silva:::You are being a little unfair to John R Fernandes and patronising.
ReplyDeleteJohn has as much rights as you to comment about Goa.He is an original and "TRUE BLOODED" "Son of Goan Soil".
Reading you comment , you seem to have a strange kind of bias towards any Goans that live or reside outside Goa ( within India) and specially those that live abroad.
Ek Goenkar too has made a very important point.If a person of Goan orign cannot call him self a Goan,who can.Perhaps you can answer this.
Regardless where a Goan lives...he has full rights to comment and give his views.
You may have watched the World cup Football recently.I am sure you must have commented / discussed/expressd a view/suggested your own tactics/predicted scores etc.As there was no Goan team playing ,are you suggesting no one should comment.Politics is no different.It has 2 or more sides or dogmas and doctrines.
You then suggest that your non-Goan friends are offended by some comments.
The issue Goans have today is the excessive migration into Goa, that is placing a burden on the infrastructure.It can be compared to a wedding hall that can comfortable entertain 200 hundred guests...but if 400 hundred come then there is sure to be trouble and a burden.
Goa`s infracture,jobs,housing,hospitals,schools,water,electricity supply,land etc can only accomadate a certain amount of people.It cannot be infinite and over run / over burdened.
This is what Goans are complaining about.The destruction of Goa
Comments made here are slowly penetrating Goa`s Political elite.
From Information I have they are running scared and looking for ways to stop NG.
They have recently been using phrases and paraphrases used on this site.
The may deny knowledge of this site to you.But rest assured thay are fully aware of it.
Goas current Politicians should not be given a comfort Zone.As many Goans where ever they may be must comment and complain.
To suggest only complaints and actrion from within Goa will change the Politicians..is a myth.
International pressure can work wonders.I hope you will take the opportunity to see how this works,specially when Countries are at loggerheads.Apartheid in South Africa dis-apperred due to South Africans being freely allowed to comment about the state of affairs from movements abroad.
Your views here most welcome...however be aware you will receive reciprocal comments to yours.
I would like to thank John R Fernandes for expressing his concern and illuminating us as to his concerns from his perspective....from out side Goa.
well done John.
A Keralite in Kentucky (USA) is unlikely to comment about Goa.He may prefer Kerala.However as Goans we would welcome his comments on Goa, as long as they were well researched, digestable and logical.
To John D`silva:::Please take note of this article.
ReplyDeleteThis is based on a figure for the year 2008.
Is this the money from Goans abroad and elsewhere you are happy to have but not the criticism of Goans outside Goa.
I hope this wil go some way in educating you to real facts.
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Thiruvananthapuram, June 6 (IANS) Goa received nearly Rs.800 crore (Rs.8 billion) in remittances last year from 56,000 emigrants settled abroad, a official study on Goan diaspora has revealed.
Goa Migration Study is a joint project by the state government’s office of the commissioner for non-resident Indian affairs, the union ministry of overseas Indian affairs and the Centre for Development Studies (CDS) here.
“Remittances are equivalent to 6.3 percent of the state’s domestic product or 33 percent of the revenue receipts,” S. Irudaya Rajan, professor with the research unit on international migration at CDS, said.
The study was done among 6,000 sample households in 60 localities selected at random from both rural and urban areas of 11 talukas of the two districts of Goa.
The detailed analysis reveals that 12 percent households in Goa had an emigrant currently living abroad.
“At least 82 percent of the households used the remittances for daily subsistence. Nearly a third of the households used it for educational purposes. More than a quarter of the households deposited it in banks. One-fifth of remittances were used for building houses and purchasing land,” said Rajan.
To James D`Silva::::I hope this article will also inform you why Goans anywhere are required.
ReplyDeleteARTICLE IN SEVERAL PARTS:::COURTESY YUVAZONE
Before I even begin asking questions, a journalist, who has often trawled through Goa’s controversial corridors of power – its vidhan sabha and its numerous police stations – warns me, “Everything appears normal on the surface. It [Goa] continues
to be sold as a tourist paradise. But scratch a bit below the surface, and you will find the muck, the dirt and the controversies. And no one will reveal anything – there is an invisible barrier that you will run up against.”
Goa has increasingly been in the news for the past few months – more bad news than good. Stories about how the entire state is up for grabs and the powerful mining/real estate lobbies, backed by politicians, are virtually raping it of its rich minerals and its equally rich forest cover. Much of the mining – a lot of it illegal – has led to large scale environmental degradation. Stories about how women have been harassed, even raped, on the dark, often isolated beaches of Goa. And not just foreign female tourists but even Indian women and that includes Goan women. About the involvement of the police and the state administration in the large scale drug trade – even while I was there came the news that five police personnel had been suspended for their links to the drug mafia. Stories about how Russians, and in some pockets Israelis, have taken over vast swathes of Goa from where, it seems, they run their unholy empire of sex and drugs.
I realise how deep the muck really goes when I run into a wall of silence from the authorities. Ask the police about the allegations of their involvement in the drug trade, the growing insecurity among tourists, the problems single women face while travelling in a state once considered the most liberal in India, and they close ranks. Or they tell you, “Don’t quote me”. Call people up for appointments, locals who have been born here or migrants who have made the state their home, and they either disappear or tell you, ‘Don’t quote me’.
Some did decide to speak, a few on record, a few off it. And the tale they tell is one of avarice, political power play, greed and worryingly, the breakdown of law and order. “Everyone is involved in the game – from the lowly constable to the officials in the home ministry to the most powerful politicians,” says a local businessman, one of those who refuse to be named, seated in his little office facing the main road in Mapusa. “Even in the Scarlett Keeling murder case, a top politician’s son was involved.” The tragedy is, locals themselves are largely responsible for not just selling their land to people they refer to as ‘outsiders’, but also letting their politicians get away with murder. “You cannot deny that the locals, who are now crying about the Russians and the outsiders, themselves sold the land to them at one point,” writer Sudeep Chakravarti, who moved to Goa a couple of years ago, told me once.
PART 2-PARADISE IN PERIL-yuvazone***
ReplyDeleteJUST ABOUT two months ago, a local taxi driver was so brutally beaten by Russians near Morjim beach in Goa that he died on the way to the hospital. His fault: he got into an argument with a Russian at a spot that’s said to be “under their (Russian) control completely.”
Dean D’cruz, architect and member of the Goa Bachao Andolan that works on environmental and land issues and has been leading the agitation against the Goa Regional Plan 2011, says that after the collapse of Russia, they needed to find safe havens. They found it in Bangkok and in Goa. Hounded in France and UK, and watched closely in several other parts of the world, Russians find it easy to operate in Goa, because of what a local police officer calls, “lax land laws”.
Elvino D’sa, an incensed local farmer who owns some coconut groves and paddy fields in the north of Goa talks about how Russians have set up shacks that display only signboards in their language and no Indian is ever allowed to enter the area. “There are rave parties held here; there are all those naked girls walking around, there is open drug trade in these businesses.
Walk down Morjim beach and everywhere you’ll see Russian signboards that D’sa mentions – outside the shacks and the guesthouses, even on buildings and near homes. And you won’t see a single Indian. N Ragesh, a software professional living in Australia, whom I met at a Baga beach shack through a friend, recounted how he was denied entry in a restaurant at Morjim. “It was embarrassing. Being refused entry into a restaurant because of ethnicity is very similar to apartheid. Perhaps, the system moved over to Goa. Amazingly, the waiters were all Indians, and they were adamant that we were not allowed in that restaurant.”
PART 3
ReplyDeleteJUST ABOUT two months ago, a local taxi driver was so brutally beaten by Russians near Morjim beach in Goa that he died on the way to the hospital. His fault: he got into an argument with a Russian at a spot that’s said to be “under their (Russian) control completely.”
Dean D’cruz, architect and member of the Goa Bachao Andolan that works on environmental and land issues and has been leading the agitation against the Goa Regional Plan 2011, says that after the collapse of Russia, they needed to find safe havens. They found it in Bangkok and in Goa. Hounded in France and UK, and watched closely in several other parts of the world, Russians find it easy to operate in Goa, because of what a local police officer calls, “lax land laws”.
Elvino D’sa, an incensed local farmer who owns some coconut groves and paddy fields in the north of Goa talks about how Russians have set up shacks that display only signboards in their language and no Indian is ever allowed to enter the area. “There are rave parties held here; there are all those naked girls walking around, there is open drug trade in these businesses.
Walk down Morjim beach and everywhere you’ll see Russian signboards that D’sa mentions – outside the shacks and the guesthouses, even on buildings and near homes. And you won’t see a single Indian. N Ragesh, a software professional living in Australia, whom I met at a Baga beach shack through a friend, recounted how he was denied entry in a restaurant at Morjim. “It was embarrassing. Being refused entry into a restaurant because of ethnicity is very similar to apartheid. Perhaps, the system moved over to Goa. Amazingly, the waiters were all Indians, and they were adamant that we were not allowed in that restaurant.”
@ N.Fernandes (London): I have no bias against Goans outside Goa or settled abroad. Its just that they have always been talking about bringing change in Goa but it never happens. We want action not commentary. Posting on blogs will not affect the Politicians, they still continue to warm their chairs and loot Goa.
ReplyDeleteGoans are waiting for your support, lets see what our brothers and sisters abroad can do for us. Also lets not mix remittances with politics. These are two different issues.
You talk about the marriage hall example. My friend, may I ask you, why is it empty so that 400 people can rush into it ? Where are the people who are supposed to have occupied those seats ? Alas they have left for greener pastures leaving a huge void for all and sundry to fill. So who do we blame ??? All of us who have left or all of those who rush in ???
James D'silva, you have misquoted your comment I would correct them by saying that Goans who sold their properties to ghanties or permanently migrated to outside Goa have no right to interfere into present state affairs. But there are many Goans who are forced to leave their motherlands worked outside Goa have every right to protest and voiced against evil rule of present politicians. You should also remember the ghanties arriving in Goa make Goa as permanent residence due to greed of some Goans like you who welcome them openly without verifying their true nature. Yes, we goans are known for welcoming attitude that does not mean Goan should become strangers on their own land. If you have so much love to your non-Goan friend then why can't you observe the consequences by giving them accommodation in your properties or next to your house? Why can't you show them what you possessed in your house? And James, a friend of ghanties show me how many Goans in Goa are voicing against the destruction of Goa,if you compare there are more Goans from outside Goa who are fighting to save their identity then those residing in Goa.Lastly the Raheje's are promoting big project at Carmona so why were you silence on that Mega-Project? Did chorchill have shut your mouth with Gandhi notes just like he did for Arwin Misquita?
ReplyDeleteTo James D`silva:::I think you have misunderstood my "WEDDING HALL" example.
ReplyDeleteSo I will attempt another example.
"If a car you drive is only allowed an optimum weight of "driver +4 passengers"...you certainly cannot expect the car to move at its optimum if you carry "driver + 10 passengers.
If a Wedding hall is only designed to comfortably have and cater for 200 hunderd guests...you do not go and invite 400.
As soon as you figured this examle you may appreciate what is being discussed.
You also seem to think that Goans that live abroad are only making commentaries, or commenting but not acting.
Just remember Rome was not built in a day.
I hope you are aware that the comments here are being read and heard by the Political class.
There is also a saying "NOTHING VENTURED,NOTHING GAINED".
If we do not try to comment on what we feel is wrong...the
politicians and their henchmen in Goa , who are mostly uneducated and have no vision, think everything is well.
Another thing, just because Goans are welcoming ,it does not mean that all and sundry can come along.
We are not discussing about "personal" guests ,but the over population of Goaand the resources it has to cope.
Once again I hope this will clear any confusion in your mind.
@James Dsilva. I think N.Fernandes and the rest have attempted several very reasonable efforts to bring in some understanding into your wise mind. For my part let me tell you we goans are very hospitable people hence after 1961 we never opposed the uncontrolled movement of people into our state, however there is always a limit, Goa's resourses are finite and Goa can hold it no more as its banks have burst open, only solutiuon is distroy hills and forests to built more structures to accomodate more of the rich migrants. Increase the area for slums to accomodate the poor migrants, use our gardens play groungs , roads , railway tracks and every possible open area as public toilets. The once unique image we were proud of we have lost. Last but not the lease I am over seas , why? because I was let down by the employment agency and was never given a job , jobs were given to outsiders and this is no lie.
ReplyDeleteYep, such articles can be retrieved in hundreds from the media archives but, how much does it matter to the common man.
ReplyDeletePeople living abroad and remitting money to India is a foolish idea if it is not invested into something useful. The rogue government machinery and all it's subsidiaries are infact the sole recipients who avail of your foreign currency to fulfil their budget requirements and import Ghanttis into the State for building infrastructure and other projects.
The money that is seen coming into the Indian coffers is all an eyewash. Multi-billion dollars in black (illegal) monies is converted to white (legal) by industrialists, politicians, Bollywood stars, Money launderers and narcotic mafiosi. These Goan foreigners living abroad should not pride themselves into believing that their pittance remittances make up Goa's economy. Please be aware that your remittances is just peanuts that is received by your families to survive another day.
@ johnads: Well said !!!
ReplyDeleteTo Johnads:::THE BLACK PANTHER (unlike the Pink)STRIKES AGAIN
ReplyDeleteI am not sure which world you live in.
I am also not so sure about you economics mastery.
To suggest that Goans or Indians living abroad are foolish in sending money / remittances to Goa demonstrates your lack of presence in the real world.
The remittances made to Goa are not made directly to the Government.These remittances are received indrectly and absorbed into the economy indirectly from sales Taxes etc.
Please also do not insult Goans that live abroad.
You along with James D`silva seem to have a dislike for any Goan that lives abroad.
You guys will never ever decide our futures.But you may wish to consider your own.
Your suggestion that what they remit is pittance and peanuts is plainly insulting to hard working Goans.
Your suggestion that the remittances are pittanc e & peanuts are only good, to allow families to survive for another day are also plainly a demonstration of crass stupidity.
What would be your alternate suggestions?.
what in your opinion is "not peanuts".
How do you in your insane mind quantify what is an appropriate amount.
Many Goans who live abroad send money to Goa to help and feed their families in the best way the can.
You seem to have no respect for what these Goans who live abroad either permanently or temporarily do to help their families.
I guess you live off handouts and scraps from your mother in Goa.This is why you are totally clueless about real life.
I suggest you need to check the mental state of your mind.From all the comments I have read from you, you seem to live in a "bubble" of your own.
I am well insulated,vaccinated and innoculated from comments from you.
However please feel free to make a "pitiful remittance" of further comments, and also using your clones.
To James D`silva:::
ReplyDeleteYou have obviously felt humilated and insulted by commentators here.
So It is not surprising you have choosen to applaud Johnads.
While the both of you attempt,to direct your "CRAP" at Goans living abroad, which is plainly out of jealousy / envy/paranoia...remember it boomerangs back you you.
The "impression " one gets from you both is that your are "MUMMYS BOYS", LOOKING FOR NEW TOYS TO PLAY WITH.
sO PLEASE FEEL FREE TO PAT EACH OTHER ON THE BACKS FOR YOUR CRYSTAL CLEAR DEMONSTRATION OF STUPIDITY AND IDIOCY.
To Johnads and James d`silva:::
ReplyDelete"Assuming" that you both make huge cash contributions directly to the Goa Government(not through any other form of taxation), could you advise commentators here and abroad what amount you consider as "PITTANCE".
HOW MUCH, DO YOU 2 IRRATIONAL GUYS THINK THESE "PITTANCES MULTIPLIED BY THE NO. OF YEARS it is made IS STILL CONSIDERED "PITTANCE".
Finally can you 2 guys tell us how much in" hard cash" you have given to the Goa Government so as to put the rest of us notably Goans abroad to shame.
Can you also tell me / us how and who will feed the hungry bellys of the children, of Goans that live abroad, that have family back home.
N. Fernandes, I know you guys and the life that's down in England and how it's to survive on dole. If you do not not like what's said here, I care less. Why should I envy you guys when I know you'll to be so hard up and living
ReplyDeletefor the day. I have lived and worked abroad over two decades and never wished to live at the
mercy of the tax payer. As a good citizen of India, I am still contributing to it's economy.
@ Johnads...you said and I quote: "I have lived and worked abroad over two decades and never wished to live at the mercy of the tax payer."
ReplyDeleteMr. Johnads why did you go abroad in the first place and that too for two decades?
Didn't you find any decent job in Goa or is it that you father could not afford to pay bribes to the illiterate-goonda politicians of Goa?
From the above quote of yours, it appears that you lived at the mercy of the tax payer while you were abroad. That means you are either unskilled to find any employment or you are a crook who probably must have been moonlighting somewhere and living at the mercy of the tax payers.
You also said: I know you guys and the life that's down in England and how it's to survive on dole".
How can you be so sure that all Goans down in England are on dole?
Can you also say these two Goans who were honoured recently by Queen Elizabeth II are also living on dole.
This is from the Queen's bulletin.
"Two Goans have been listed on the Queen's Birthday Honours list. Mrs Annie Vincent (nee Fernandes),who was born in Nakuru in Kenya, and hails from Cortalim, was awarded an MBE.
She got this award for services to "H.M. Board of Inland Revenue and the community". Also awarded with an OBE (Order of the British Empire) was Aires Angelo Barnabe Barros D'Sa (ex-Nairobi)consultant vascular surgeon, Royal Victoria Hospital, Belfast,for services to vascular surgery."
Now Johnads- the shit eater of the illiterate-goonda politicians - will come up with a new theory. He will say Annie and Dr Aires are not Goans because they were born in Africa.
C'mon John Farts... I am waiting for it.
And remember, in the citation they were called of "Goan descent" not Indian descent.
@ Johnads: I think we are wasting our time reading the posts on this blog and commenting. Its got nothing but a bunch of fools who are like empty vessels which make a lot of noise. What have they done so far to change Goa ? apart from writing on this blog ??? They fail to understand the ground situation in Goa. They all come on a one month vacation and thats it, they think they know too much. The families that get their remittances use the same to fill the pockets of politicians etc. Apart from abusing others on this blog and fighting with their relatives while on vacation for a share of property, what else are these guys good at ?
ReplyDeleteWhat have these people done for Goa is the question ? Nothing, absolutely nothing !
Debating is good, and should never be taken to heart all will not agree to others ideas. That is where the whole sense of commenting stands. One has always to be prepared to take as well as give. Do not be discouraged about negatives. The editor here has given you a wonderful opportunity to post openly. Do not destroy his trust and goodness. Use this opportunity to debate and come to a decision. We the Goans are already lost and now a days the FREEDOM FARTERS are out purifying the land. (someone rightly gave them the name FREEDOM FARTERS)
ReplyDeleteTo Johnads:::
ReplyDeletewell done for contributing to the Goan /Indian economy.
I am still awaiting the amounts you contribute as hard cash and not through Taxation TO THE ECONOMY.
It is your personal choice to return to or remain in India.It is quite obvious that you were insufficiently qualified or inadequately equipped to live in other countries or advanced economies.
However my better intuition(having read some of your comments) tells me that you were deported after spending 20 years abroad for illegal activities.
To live abroad for 20 years yourself (I assume collecting dole ) and then suddenly change & condemn Goans abroad and only come with the lamest excuse of "Dole" is plain stupid.
Is the Dole the only trick you have up your sleeve, to win an arguement and receive heaps of praises.?
BEBDO, has just given you some hard, truthful and verifiable facts.Cab you verify yours?
Please also can out tell us which "COMIC BOOKS" you get your facts from.
Again as Bebdo said...you must have been some sort of a crook.
We understand that you are in a permanent state of a "TRANCE".PERHAPS DANCING AROUND A BONFIRE ON A FULL MOON NIGHT TO SOME "GOA TRANCE MUSIC"..MAY BE A BETTER OCCUPATION FOR YOU.
Please consider it seriously.
James, you are issuing fatwas against Goans telling those residing out of Goa not to interfere, you expect us to toe your line of thinking and join the bandwagon welcomming ghatis in Goa from all walks of life , what have the ghatis branded us as? lazy , good for nothing meekly educated and drunkards , then why do they set up enterprises in Goa ,is it to prefer ghatis over Goans and grab our lands,some ghatis who come as labourers, construction workers are involved in rapes, robery etc., if we do not bring awarness and check the influx of people comming and settling in Goa , it will soon become cosmo like Mumbai where our identity as Goans will be lost, it is no use of shedding tears later ,wake up Goans and save our golden Goa
ReplyDeleteBebdea, Your name says it all, a "mental retard". I can't blame you for what you are. You are always in a drunken stupor and are the same as most in England who admire and worship the Royals and care less to know how they function as long as they get their weekend dose. N. Fernandes would be in a better position to apprise you on how the Royals of England and the recipients of dole go hand in hand. He has plenty of time on his hands to ensure that you get all media briefings and cutouts from archives. Oh yes, he gets his inspirations from children's story books so, expect some names of the authors that he may ask that you refer to, to enhance your vision when in a sane mind.
ReplyDeleteN. Fernandes, we in India are much more focused on whats happening here than many of you who live a Zombie lifestyle in Western nations. I see you have always something or the other to say even if a person has expressed what's right. You should have spent your last days story telling to kids in your block rather make someone believe they are always wrong. No wonder you are made to be and arsehole here by many on this blog becuase of novelistic rituals of never ending. I don't need to explain my financial statements to a Royal beggar like you. If you will hear me, I have never worked for anyone all my life be it abroad or in India and will never do. I do not need to go begging for jobs not do I have to bribe anyone for one. I pride myself to be better than the those Mental Retards and the Dole recipients. I have always strived to advance on my merits.
To Johnads:::Thank you for your comment directed to me.
ReplyDeleteI am sure Bebdo will respond to you as he feels.
Anyone reading your comment will easily realise that you are not a very educated person.
You seem to contradict your self.You hust do not know what you are saying.There is absolutely no sense in anything you say.
The inspirations I get from childrens books are reserved manly for you only.That is the only level of knowlwdge one can educate you with.
Anyway, I have to go and collect my Royal Beggars Dole of which I am a recepient...but I am wondering if you could spare some "change" too!!!
Unfortunately I do not live in a block and the only kid I know is you.
HAve a good nights sleep and keep off the "WHACKY BACCKY"
To James D`silva::: It is sorry to note that you are keen to associate with Johnads and dislay very narrow views of the world and reality.
ReplyDeleteYou must remember that Goans all over the world, still have friends and relatives in Goa.
Your suggestion that Goans abroad only send money to fill the pockets of Politicians is again not the real fact.They send it to their families.
If Goans abroad are commenting here on this blog , is because, they hear,read and watch, whats going on in Goa.
It is completely untrue that they (Goans) come for just 1 month on vacation and think they know too much.
Fighting with relatives, when down in Goa is a personal dispute and personal matter.It has no bearings on what goes on in Goa as a whole.
This blog is not about family disputes.
I am not sure how many more excuses you will find to justify your comment.
This site has allowed Goans from all over the world to be witness to what really is going on in Goa.
Please do not expect Goans abroad to effect change in Goa overnight.That seems to be the issue you have.You want immediate change and that cannot happen.People are trying their best and through all avenues.
From my observation most people here on this blog have agreed there is a lot of destruction of one sort or another taking place in Goa.It maybe Political or Environmental or something else.
Everyone who has some wisdom and vision are trying to do the best they can.
No one is promising you or Johnads anything.Nothing in Life is certain other than DEATH.
I am sorry that you have chosen to agree with Johnads...who most people find a bit comical and whacky.
You have in the past made some good comments...but strangely your comments always lead to "Goans abroad"...when a lot of the commentators here are actually in Goa ,but have limited access to the internet.I am sure you too can see that.
I am not sure why you have a pathological hate for Goans living abroad.Is there nothing else that they have, which is good?
Perhaps you will explain.
Nobody here is against you...nor Johnads...but remember your comments will be either accepted as fair and good, or plain crazy or lacking detail.
@ N.Fernandes:: Its a wrong conclusion that I'm against Goans abroad or I'm supporting anyone. Its just that my views are the plain truth and I appreciate people who are like minded rather than run away from the truth. Lets accept the stark reality about Goa's future just like you said death is certain.
ReplyDeleteSeriously, do you think anyone cares two hoots about the way Goa is doing nowadays ?
Bullshit! Apart from making easy money, getting a share of the property, supporting some politicians when they invite you for a drink and crying that Goa is overrun by ghanttis what else are we doing ?
Understood the pen is mightier than the sword...ages ago. Lets wake upto reality, do a groundcheck on the situation and see where we stand.... or sink !!!
@N. Fernandes... rwt johnads... I don't want to comment on an oxymoron like johnads. In his earlier comment he stated that he lived and worked abroad for 20 years. In the latest one he says I quote "If you will hear me, I have never worked for anyone all my life be it abroad or in India and will never do".
ReplyDeleteI rest my case... this guy is gone bonkers, maybe he had too much of boom-shankar!
As to how he survived all these years, it is open for speculation. My guess is he probably is a gigolo who is being paid for his services by his clients.
To James d`silva::Thanks for your comment.
ReplyDeleteI really have no further wish to disagree or countermand your comment or comments after this .It seems like a pointless excercise .I realise you are too entrenched in your views and unlikely to modify or rectify them.
There are many things of importance that happen in this world,that afflict the human race..People all over the world will have a view on the topic.However in your view. only people that live in the affected area should voice their concerns.Anyone else should not meddle.
If, hypothetically, Goa was threatned to be nuclear bombed , your view (along with Johnads)would be,that only those Goans in Goa should have concerns and express a view / comment.Those Goans that live outside of Goa have no right to express their concerns or their views or "sympathies"...unless they come to Goa.
This view of yours,that you seem to harp on, is truly pathetic.
There are many means of modern communication methods nowadays like the Internet / forums/blogs etc.You yourself are using these to express you views.If these modern means can be used as instruments to bring about change than it should be used.They are powerful tools.
However, in your self -limiting scope of bringing any change, your only belief is that one must be present Goa.
The war in Iraq (as an example) drew many protests and protestors around the world.However your view is that all these protestors should go to Iraq to effect any change.
Many Non Residents Indians and Non-Resident Goans(NRI`s / NRG`s) complained about their voting rights recently...from abroad.This Right was recently granted to them.They were not in India / Goa for that.Special Laws were also enacted to allow NRI`s /NRG`s to recover their properties which they rented out while away.So if this example will not convince you...nothing ever will.
No one has to do any ground check of the reality in Goa as you describe it.
Goans abroad do complain to their Embassies / Diplomatic missions etc.Perhaps you are not wise to this .
Many people here, from all over the world commenting on Niz Goenkar are doing exactly that, through the best medium available to them.
However you are limited in your beliefs that it can be done in Goa only.That is purely short sightedness on your part and you just plainly cannot accept that.
Regardless, of your rigid views,that change can only be done in Goa (on the ground),will be ignored by Goans all over the world as crazy.
Goans all over the world will contribute to bring about change in Goa as best as they can and by which ever way they can.It is their "MORAL" duty and right.
Your views or comments will not come in their / our way.Your deformed view/ s is your "little baby" and you can hold on to it for dear life.
Regardless I wish you well in your endeavours.
James D'silva I agree with your last comments but if your really love Goa & Goans and interested to save Goa unique identity leave your idiology of by dividing Goans between those residing in Goa and working outside to support their families.Beleive me the corrupt politician of Goa are trying thier every efforts from "Pen" becoming "sword",they are trying to silence their misdeeds by offering Gandhi Notes.Goans should show their true colour by rejecting their offer by writing against them and freeing Goa from illiterate Goondas & criminals starting with Chorchill & Babush.
ReplyDeleteBehaving like kids again are we? Name calling and wanting to have the last word... Jeez..and when will we unite and fight for Amchem Goem??
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