Before I venture into giving my reply to Arwin Mesquita on a comment that he sent here on Niz Goenkar, I would like to paste that comment here so that it would enable the readers to get the correct picture as to what I am replying to him. It would also help the readers analyse some of the Goan structure of a few self proclaimed Goans without the knowledge of the mother tongue of Goa KONKANI.
ARWIN MESQUITA’S COMMENT: Ref: ST MARY'S GOAN SODALITY-DUBAI: THE SPINELESS APOLOGY & ARROGANCE by N. Fernandes, London
Dear All,
I prefer spending time with those working to save Goa on the Ground, But this has gone too far & at this stage right/wrong, it is not helping the cause of Goa/Goan unity. My views:
Dear All,
I prefer spending time with those working to save Goa on the Ground, But this has gone too far & at this stage right/wrong, it is not helping the cause of Goa/Goan unity. My views:
- Caji and the Goan Sodality team has given me the support to hold meetings on Goan Identity. Some thing rare amongst Goan Associations? Also I know that many in the group who are working selflessly and this will demotivate them and any others who want to do something for the Goan community.
- Jude has suggested so many ideas and also has offered tom work with me on the bigger picture for Goa & Goans and our Identity. His ideas/vision is very different from the average Goan thinking if just parties, dances & social events; Something rare in the Goan Mindset.
- For argument sake, say the critics have some grounds, do we really need to make a mountain out of a mole hill? There is so much disgustful much higher looting by many MLAs in Goa; let us focus our energies constructively there if we really have the courage to clean Goa?
- Activists in Goa are pleading for help/money or any kind of assistance. We have limited time to save Goa and lets spend our time wisely.
- I think we have to put this to rest Logically. Please see my suggestions below:
- Those concerned can call Caji/Jude and have a meeting with people/representatives both opposing parties.
- I offer to be present at this meeting
- Those concerned must have simple bulleted summary document of Allegations.
- Caji/Jude/Goan Sodality can answer to each of the allegations and the entire document will be put up on the Goan websites
- I must reiterate that this has to be a civilised meeting with no abuses, name calling foul language etc. Also this will not be a debate, it will be more on proper clear clarifications of the allegations so that Caji/Jude/Goan Sodality can respond as best as they can.
Once the final document (Allegations & Answers) is posted on Goan Websites/Forum, then we have to leave it to the people to decide. After the latter the issue must be laid to rest and let’s do something more productive for our beautiful land Goa & our people. - Arwin Mesquita (UAE)
MY REPLY TO ARWIN MESQUITA
Dear Arwin
We appreciate the efforts that you are making to fight for Goa and Goans. We too are doing the same and you are most welcome to join us.
1) Now you have said that you prefer to spend time with those working to save Goa on the Ground.
- To this let me answer: How do you know that we are not working on the ground? Do you think without our members working on the ground we would have been able to help the needy Goans (which sometimes involved lot of logistics) and expose the corrupt politicians and land sharks with documentary evidence?
2) You then say “but this has gone too far & at this stage right/wrong, it is not helping the cause of Goa/Goan unity.”
- Can you please explain what has gone too far and is not helping Goa/Goan unity? As far as we know, our policies and stance have made more Goans aware of what is happening to Goa and more Goans, all over the world, are joining in our efforts to fight the corrupt and illiterate goonda politicians, land sharks and non-Goan policies of the Goa government.
3) Further, you say that Cajie and the Goan Sodality team has given me the support to hold meetings on Goan Identity.
- My answer to this is: You had only one meeting NOT MEETINGS in St. Mary’s Church. Cajie and Goan Sodality didn’t support you much. In fact Cajie asked you in English why you were addressing the meeting in English when you are supposed to talk on Goan Identity. You answered him that you did not know Konkani as you were born and brought up in Kuwait and that you were making an attempt to learn Konkani. When someone from the audience questioned Cajie as to why Cajie was speaking in English, Cajie then switched over to Konkani. Nothing constructive came out from this meeting. In fact, you were bad-mouthed and were written off as saying ‘what this guy knows about Goa and Goans when he can’t even speak Konkani’.
4) You are saying that many in the group (which I assume is SMGC) will be demotivated and any others who want to do something for the Goan community.
- To this I reply: How many members are there in the SMGC? Are you saying this because most people in Dubai doesn’t want to associate with SMGC and are now associating with Niz Goenkars? Is the SMGC feeling threatened about the rising popularity of Niz Goenkars in Dubai?
5) You said: Jude has suggested so many ideas …. Blah blah blah. And then add to say that his ideas/vision is very different from the average Goan thinking…. Something rare in the Goan mindset.
- My reply is: Are you underestimating the intellect of a majority of Goans, including us?
6) This comment of yours is very interesting: “Do we really need to make a mountain out of a mole hill? There is so much disgustful much higher looting by many MLAs in Goa….
- My reply is: What are you trying to imply here, and especially when you mean ‘MUCH HIGHER LOOTING’. With this statement of yours, can I infer that there is looting of some scale which is going on? And if so it has to be HIGH. If you know the English language then you will know what I mean. HIGH, HIGHER, HIGHEST. So do you want to sweep under the carpet this ‘HIGH’ looting and are urging us to concentrate on the ‘HIGHER’ looting?
7) You say: Activists in Goa are pleading for help/money or any kind of assistance.
- My reply is: How do you know that we are not of any assistance to these activists? If you check our posts on Naroa (Mehta scam) you will see our activists confronting the Naroa sarpanch. We are here and there, plus we are assisting many. Many other activities that we are doing are not open for public discussion due to the sensitive nature of such activities.
8) You say: I think we have to put this to rest logically
- My reply is: I don’t know what you are talking about. We don’t have issues with any individual.
Your suggestions:
(A) You say Those concerned can call Cajie/Jude….. and have a meeting
- My reply to this also is we have no issues with individuals. But if such individuals try to tarnish our image, threaten us and use political clout to try to silence the voice of Niz Goenkar, we won’t keep quiet. We will expose such people for working against the welfare of Goa and Goans.
(B) You say: “I offer to be present at this meeting”
- My reply is: Are you offering your services out of your own free will or were you pushed into it by someone who is frightened of being exposed by Niz Goenkars?
(C) …. You are talking about allegations
- My reply is: We have not alleged anyone of anything. We have documentary evidence and we have published it on the site. From our side it is all in black and white. If the party that you are representing have something against us let them forward that to you and we will answer it.
(D)… again you are talking about allegations…. Blah blah blah… and clarification about Cajie/Jude?
- My reply is: Will this meeting be conducted in English or Konkani? If it is in English, then Cajie will object to it, the same way that he had objected to you speaking in English when you had addressed the meeting on Goan Identity in St. Mary’s Church.
On a final note. Let me assure you that we have nothing against any individual be it Cajie/Jude or any one. We support you as one of us. But please refrain from insulting the intellect and the goodwill of Goans. Goans have endured enough of hypocrisy of the illiterate politicians who have sold Goa to the ghanttis. Goans have are on the verge of becoming a minority in Goa. Goa’s culture, especially the Luso-Indian culture (I hope you understand what I mean by this) is being diluted by the culture of the ghanttis. Even our church properties have been sold to non-Goan builders by some of our priests. The time has now come for Goans to say enough is enough. And through Niz Goenkar we will bring a change in the socio-political structure of Goa.
Viva Goa, Long Live Goan Unity, Goa for Goans
Mog asundi
Regards - Bebdo